Photo: Daniel Gajdamowicz
Sebastien Le Toux scored a brace and Philadelphia Union held off a late Montreal Impact comeback for a 2-1 victory at PPL Park on Saturday night.
Carlos Valdes made his first start since his return on Monday from a year-and-a-half loan spell in South America, going the full 90 for the Union. New goalkeeper signing Rais Mbolhi was not available as he tended to a personal matter in Europe, according to interim manager Jim Curtin.
Le Toux scored once in each half, the first on a terrible defensive lapse from Montreal, the second a smart finish from close range. A late goal from Maxim Tissot made things interesting, but Philadelphia was able to hold on for all three points against MLS’ worst team.
Former Union man Jack McInerney also returned to PPL Park for the first time this season since his trade to Montreal in April and was given a proper welcome from the Sons of Ben, who took every opportunity to jeer him.
An announced attendance of 18,703 was hand for a beautiful night at PPL Park that featured a great deal of unattractive soccer.
“At the end of the year, this just shows up as three points,” Curtin said after the win. “No one’s going to remember that they had the ball a ton, that we didn’t create a lot, we were sloppy with our passes. Everyone wants to talk about the beautiful game but at this point in the year that goes out of the window for me.”
First Half
Curtin made one change to the team that tied Kansas City last Friday. Carlos Valdes came straight into the Union line up, pairing up with Ethan White in the center of the defense. Amobi Okugo was sacrificed for Maurice Edu in central midfield, despite Edu playing 45 minutes at the MLS All Star game on Wednesday.
The Union had the first chance of the match in just the 5th minute when Vincent Nogueira broke the Montreal offside trap and had a chance to shoot from the right side. But Matteo Ferrari did well to recover and his sliding challenge was enough to deflect Nogueira’s shot onto the top of the net.
The Union would go in front in just the 12th minute. Zac MacMath started the goal-scoring sequence with a smart, quickly taken goal kick, driving the ball 75 yards upfield for an already on the move Sebastien Le Toux. While Impact defender Krzysztof Krol looked to have done enough to put off the Frenchman and allow Troy Perkins to claim the ball, instead he tried to head back to Perkins only to comically direct it right past the goalkeeper. Le Toux was the quickest to react, tapping the ball into the empty net from close range.
“We always talk about it,” Le Toux said of the delivery from MacMath. “I tell him if he’s about to catch a ball quick off a shot to look for me, especially when they are kind of sleeping in the back. He played a great ball, right in the middle, and it was a miscommunication between the two defenders and another miscommunication between the defender who headed it back. I just tried to look for it and I’m glad the hustle paid off and it was good to get in front in the game.”
The rest of the first half played out with few chances for either side. Montreal held the edge in possession at the half, with 65 percent of the ball, but had no shots on goal at the break.
Second Half
Philadelphia started the second half brightly and had a chance to double their lead shortly after the break when Le Toux broke down the right side. Conor Casey was available in the box, but Le Toux’s cross was too high for the big striker.
But Le Toux would double the lead soon after, getting his second of the match in the 63rd minute. Substitute Andrew Wenger made a strong run with the ball down the left side and appeared to leave his pass too short for Le Toux at the top of the box. But the striker did well to corral the ball before firing a low shot that wrong footed Troy Perkins from 15 yards, scoring his 10th goal of the season.
Montreal responded well to conceding the goal, ratcheting up the pressure in the Union half. Substitute Anthony Jackson-Hamel came close to scoring in the 69th minute, his flick beat MacMath only to hit the far post before bouncing straight back to the Union goalkeeper.
Montreal continued to pressure and eventually broke through with a goal from Maxim Tissot in the 79th minute. The substitute made an unmarked run to the back post to easily tap in Andres Romero’s cross from close range.
Philadelphia responded to the Montreal goal with smarter play for the final 10 minutes of the match, holding possession and taking the ball to the corner whenever possible. Wenger should have had his second assist of the match in stoppage time, as he broke into the box and played in a low cross that Brian Brown only had to get a foot on to score from close range. But the young striker muffed the shot and the chance went begging.
There was some late concern when Le Toux went down after a hard tackle deep into stoppage time. Jim Curtin was visibly irritated on the sideline as the tackle came well after the announced three minutes of added time.
I was very angry,” Curtin said after the game. “I was very angry with the fact that the time went a little longer, and that’s when he gets kicked. I’m not in any way, shape, or form saying that the referees had anything to do with him getting injured, but there’s the grey area because Zac gets hurt in injury time so, do they add 30 seconds, do they add another 45? So,again, it’s that grey area in soccer where it goes a little longer then you would have liked and that’s when Sebastian gets kicked. Unfortunately — we won’t speculate — but it’s not great.
Le Toux walked to the locker room with a heavy limp after the final whistle.
When asked about the seriousness of the injury after the game, Le Toux said, “I don’t know. It is a big bruise and I will be able to rest tomorrow, but I was very hurt when I got kicked. I had no feeling for the first three minutes, so I was afraid of something bad, but right now it feels better. I hope it’s just a big bruise tomorrow.”
The Union will hope their leading goalscorer can shake off the injury, as the team has a quick turnaround to play the US Open Cup Semifinal in Dallas on Tuesday before finishing their week in Texas against Houston on Friday.
“It’s not easy but it’s the same thing for Dallas,” Curtin explained. “They played tonight so it’s a quick turnaround. They’re obviously at home tonight, and then home against us, so we have the travel element, which is difficult. The crazier thing is that we have to turn around and play again on Friday in Houston, which is not a pleasant place to play temperature wise.
Curtin continued, “It’s tough, [but] we’re not going to make excuses. We really have a deep squad now; if you look the bench, you have hundreds and hundreds of games on the bench right now of experience, so that’s a positive to come in and help close out games. Happy with the group, there’s completion in training like you wouldn’t believe for spots right now. We have a crowded group, everyone’s getting healthy. People forget about Cristian Maidana so, again, he’s coming back, he’ll be close for Tuesday.
“Again, a lot of competition going on, and we’re going to be a team now that’s a real factor in the Eastern conference. And I’m not talking about fifth place, I’m talking about making a run, it’s that tight right now. So if you get on a little streak, like I’ve said all along here, I want to push for third, second or third, and make a real run at this thing.”
Philadelphia Union
Zac MacMath, Raymon Gaddis, Carlos Valdes, Ethan White, Sheanon Williams, Maurice Edu, Brian Carroll, Vincent Nogueira (Fred 86′), Sebastien Le Toux, Danny Cruz (Andrew Wenger 62′), Conor Casey (Brian Brown 72′).
Unused Subs: Michael Lahoud, Amobi Okugo, Fabinho, Andre Blake
Montreal Impact
Troy Perkins, Eric Miller, Matteo Ferrari, Wandrille Lefevre, Krzysztof Krol, Patrice Bernier, Justin Mapp (Maxim Tissot 75′), Felipe Martins (Dilly Duka 67′), Andres Romero, Gorka Larrea, Jack McInerney (Andrew Jackson-Hamel 67′).
Unused Subs: Evan Bush, Karl Ouimette, Calum Mallace, Issey Nakajima-Farran
Scoring Summary
PHI: Sebastien Le Toux — 12′
PHI: Sebastien Le Toux (Andrew Wenger) — 63′
MTL: Maxim Tissot (Andrés Romero) – 79′
Disciplinary Summary
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| Philadelphia Union | Montreal Impact | |
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| 8 | Attempts on Goal | 11 |
| 2 | Shots on Target | 3 |
| 4 | Shots off Target | 7 |
| 2 | Blocked Shots | 1 |
| 2 | Corner Kicks | 5 |
| 8 | Crosses | 21 |
| 1 | Offsides | 2 |
| 17 | Fouls | 8 |
| 0 | Yellow Cards | 0 |
| 0 | Red Cards | 0 |
| 274 | Total Passes | 608 |
| 65% | Passing Accuracy | 83% |
| 31.8% | Possession | 68.2% |
| 33 | Duels Won | 66 |
| 33.3% | Duels Won % | 66.7% |
| 12 | Tackles Won | 12 |
| 2 | Saves | 0 |
| 26 | Clearances | 19 |
The stat of the match is 65% passing accuracy. I’m not sure what White, Carroll and Williams were seeing but it wasn’t a fellow teammate.
Fortunate to get the 3. Next.
Worst passing display I have ever seen in any professional game. Add Ray Gaddis to the list of offenders. He may have actually been below 50% passing. Even Nogueira was all over the place. At halftime I would have subbed on Wenger for Casey, not because Casey was bad but because you needed someone up front who could track down all of the errant passes
A win is a win
Lucky. Shouldn’t have been this close – especially after 8 days off to prepare for a home game against a bad team missing its best weapon. Why is BC starting? Field a lineup that plays Okugo instead of leaving Edu out there after he went 45 on Wednesday!
Why is Casey playing 80+ after Brown’s super showings?
I like many things about JC, but tonight his lack of creativity was on full display. We’ll pay for it in the next 2 games in this week. He left no doubt we need an experienced permanent manager.
Brian Carroll starts because White started.
I assume the theory was that Okugo and Edu would occupy the same space and do the same thing so you could tweak Edu to be box to box (or if not that just more of a positive player) While Carroll could just Carroll it up in the back and win the ball and pass it to someone who would start the attack.
Or have Mo play more of the BC role? With a toothless Impact offense, we could expect more possession and chances but we didn’t create. After the early Zac – to – Seba “bomb,” the rout should ‘ very been on. Instead we finish with only 2 shots on target. And the coach post game talks about competition and officiating. Or was I having a bad flashback?
The problem is that we have great players but they all play the same position. If soccer was a game of defensive midfielders and goalies we would be MLS champions. The team is poorly constructed and it is going to take another offseason to sort it out. And so long as we are in the playoff hunt line ups like this are going to keep happening.
JC’s job should be to put the best XI suited to the type of game we want to play. If Mo can’t play stopper instead of BC, how is he an all star? Casey was ineffective – and will get gassed sooner in the Texas heat this week. I would have preferred Brown go 90 last night. MLSoccer says we have top 3 talent now. But if JC doesn’t have the players, let their play show it. Don’t enable it with weak lineups and inadequate tactics. It’s Hackworthesque.
maybe the tactics under Hack were Curtin’s idea? he was on the staff then too.
Chalk one up to Zac. If Mbohli is in there, I doubt he’s worked enough with LeToux to know to take the quick kick like Zac did to find LeToux.
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Also, did anyone else think the ref was horrible (but probably to the Union’s favor as a whole). It seemed like there were times at the end of both halves where he had completely lost control. Several Union players probably should have seen yellow but didn’t.
The ref defintely left a lot to be desired. The end of the game time management was rediculous.
I still cant believe a MTL sub was allowed to enter the field of play and put his hands on a Union player with no repercussions…the Ref’s in this league are horrible it makes watching games painful.
Both goals had more to do with Montreal really super not good defense than anything the Union did.
#lookwhogetstobeallsupersmugabouthisteamsdefensenow
It is absolutely inexcusable that Tuesday’s game isn’t being televised or even streamed. These same people will seek real ticket prices for the final and try to guilt us into shelling out for it. And yet the semi isn’t real enough to show it.
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I want to watch Tuesday and shell out for the final. But if I can’t see the semi, I won’t buy tickets for the final.
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That kind of action is the only thing the Front Office cares about.
To be fair to the front office, it isn’t their call. US Soccer isn’t streaming it and they hold the rights. Just like when US soccer wouldn’t let them stream the NE Revs game because they didn’t have a US Soccer graphics package. The people that run the Open Cup are just idiots.
well thankfully somebody covers the 4th round of the FA Cup for us to watch stateside at least- you know the game when Leicester City plays Sheffield Wednesday.
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I agree it is a farce. Front Office or not. Some things still occur that display ineptitude regarding the game in this country. To me its nearly the same thing as not showing the third round of the PGA Championship because US Golf holds the rights and not the PGA of America. Estupido.
Not just the FA Cup – you can watch League Cup matches starting next week. Even the Brits laugh about how irrelevant that tournament is.
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Great analogy on the golf tournaments.
If Sak can’t get Sunil Gulati to show it, same result.
I respect Curtin a lot for bringing organization to the Union and I see that at this point it’s about 3 points. However moving forward the Union will need a manager who will bring in a system were the team plays soccer and shows ball movement and dictates play and imposes their will on the game. It’s one thing to respect your opponent but conceding the ball at home is too much respect especially vs Montreal. The Union lost nearly every 2nd ball especially with Brian Carroll bogging down play. Brian Carroll is on the ball to much with his back passes, bunts, and deflections and inability to pick out teammates moving forward. It’s infectious and the Union lose continuity. Curtin coached eerily like Hackworth last night which shows that he hopefully will not be the manager of this team. Montreal waited for someone on the Union to doze long enough for them to make a play to score. Right on que with the Union continuing to concede possession Williams got caught and Montreal scored.
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The fact that we sit back at home us nauseating to me. The pace should be breakneck ram it the fuck down your throat you can’t handle our game what are you going to do about it (excuse curse tirade). Last nite I was satisfied with 3 points. Tonight I am irritated that we allow teams to cycle the ball and pussyfoot foot and eat possession. The Impact are terrible and we conceded 68% possession.
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Those who think Okugo is overrated? Do you think this lopsided number in his absence is coincidence?. No way. Okugo brings order and possession and sensibility. Last night was JV in his absence.
Last night was JV in Okugo’s absence because we replaced him with BC. Just because Okugo is better than Brian Carroll does not mean that he isn’t overrated. That said, he is probably the best player we have at the CDM or CB positions besides Valdes and perhaps Edu. But in no way, shape or form is he the best player on our team. With M’Bolhi and Valdes, I wouldn’t even consider him top 5 on our team.
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I would love you to tell me the 5 players you think are better please.
I feel it is really important to help bring people along regarding Amobi. So many people here just don’t seem to get it.
MBolhi, Valdes, Le Toux, Nogueira, Maidana, Edu…
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Jury’s out on who’s better between Edu and Okugo. It could be that Okugo is the best player at CDM, but he’s definitely not the best on the team.
With all due respect Sf58- including a goalie in your top 5 who you have likely seen play 2 or 3 times- tells me all I need to know.
Ad hominem. Tells me all I need to know.
I like it sf58. I like it. Enjoy the day.
+1 on a win is a win. We did not look good, but Montreal looked worse. So we did deserve the points.
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While it was an ugly win, you could also say that that’s what real playoff teams do: grind out 3 points against a weak team at home even when you’re not on your game. And rise to the challenge to grab a point from the defending champions in their stadium.
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BTW, I think Montreal could use a keeper. Might be a good destination for Zac. MacMath for Mapp? (Doubt they’d do it.)
‘Grinding out wins’ is Hackworth talk. It’s the talk of a team that’s blatantly underachieving and producing a poor product…but utlizes luck and quintessential American sports phrases to put on a positive interview. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy we won, but the ‘win is a win’ mentality only holds water when you look at a one game snapshot, good teams beat a Divaoless Montreal to a pulp at home.
Sir yes sir.
Agreed. I don’t think Curtin is going to cut it in the long-term.
After all the straight talk, JC saying we’re aiming at second in conference moments after struggling to keep 3 points against its depleted doormat is all too revealing. I hope I’m proved wrong but I see 0-2 this week as very possible after what we saw. I hope they train M’Bohli for missed marks, failed clearances and little posession or he may go without a clean sheet for a while.
I agree wholeheartedly about he previous comment re: Wenger for Casey, except for the fact that Casey showed me nothing except a few well played back passed. Don’t get me wrong, I like CC, but he just doesn’t seem to have the chops he used to have at Colorado. He’s not that fast, lost a ton of balls last night (to be fair, he was double covered a lot), is a step off most defenders in the league…although he plays the role of target man, it’s easy for defenders to “target” him. He’s not a major threat. Seba, on the other hand, runs like the wind, and gets places. Brown is still a little unsure of himself, but that header in the last game shows what he has deep inside. Wenger would be a better target guy. He has the height and an extra step. I didn’t get Wenger for Cruz. Cruz was doing fine, except for a few “anxious” passes that were a little off the mark. DC has heart! I’ll take that.
And I really like Curtin’s attitude. He doesn’t want to knock on the door, he wants to kick the door in. He has the guns now, except, in my opining, still missing that marquee striker. I’m cheering him on!
That’s about it for today. Sloppy game. Good result. It happens throughout the season.
…still Dooping!
Sak promised a striker. Enter Brian Brown. Saves a point at SKC. Then he sits as a late sub for another target forward 11 years older in a critical 3 games in 8 days stretch. We’re not signing a marquee striker until – at least – he’s wanted by the permanent manager.
My only comment. Good win and I am glad but to reiterate a question from earlier in the week about playoffs versus US Open Cup. To me it is a no brainer. This team is nowhere near good enough to compete in the playoffs so I would rather take the trophy. The first trophy needs to be displayed and it is not the MLS Championship this year for sure.
There is also the added benefit of getting into Concacaf champions league, forcing this team to show us more up and comers like Pfeffer and Ribeiro
Agree 100%
Certainly not the prettiest and with the return of Caros Valdez and the plethora of defensive midfielders it will take time to sort out the best lineups and tactics.
But a Hackworth team would have tied or found a way to lose that match. 3 more points, moving on to the the next one.
Death, taxes, Wenger for Cruz at 60 minute mark…
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Good result to get the 3 points, but a better opponent crushes Union last night. The only thing worse than Union passing was the Montreal defense, which is what lead to the result more than anything Philadelphia did.
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The team really misses Maidana. Love Noguiera, but he is not an attacking mid. Maidana’s return should allow Noguiera to drop into the back part of the midfield where he is much more comfortable, and hopefully that will improve the passing accuracy and linking.
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Carlos Valdes’ first game back – thank you, that is what a professional center back looks like.
Though I agree with the team in dire need of some Maidana I think Montreal had a lot to do with how the Union played last night.
They do a good job of clogging up the middle of the park just as they did in the other two match-ups this season and really create problems linking passes for a midfield-strong Union.
True, but MTL had more of an attacking starting XI than the Union. Romero, Felipe, Jack Mac and Mapp all pushed up against the Union’s back four which caused many misplaced passes. Bernier and Larrea were excellent in cleaning everything up that was caused by the higher pressure.
Was this the first time the Union had a match with a female official? It struck me as unusual. The head ref, frankly, may as well have not been there. How the Montreal player who came on and grabbed Cruz wasn’t tossed is beyond me. And how the player who ripped into Le Toux at the end isn’t shown any card at all – yellow or red – is also beyond me. There were other times that I thought a yellow should come out. Brutal reffing.
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US Soccer needs to do something to stream this game. I know Seattle is more important than the Union, and so they’re game gets streamed. But there’s no reason not to stream both of the semi-final games.
I’m sure the DC will drop a game or two on the sub that ran onto the field. And PRO will have a talk with Bozakos, for not cautioning for it.
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It is really awesome that there is a female official in the MLS, and it only gets mentioned once in passing by the announcers.
No. At least the second match with a woman assistant official. But I can’t remember whether the previous occasion was a league match our a cup match.
I’m pretty sure the previous time was a cup match.
Although early yellow cards for significant fouls are not always needed…..they were needed in this game. The chippy play escalated as the game continued. The foul on LeToux would not have occurred if overly aggressive tackles were carded earlier.
I’ve been watching the Harrisburg replays. If Maidana can’t play, why isn’t Ribiero given a chance? We can only muster 2 shots on goal against a pitiful Montreal team? And Ribiero’s been playing great as the 10 at Harrisburg.
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Also I love Sheanon but honestly he’s had a tough year. And he lost his man on Montreal’s goal. Can’t Dershang get a call up? He scored 2 goals against Orlando. Then Gaddis could play on his preferred right side.
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Doesn’t seem like Curtain using his resources appropriately given 3 important games this week.
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And I’m not even going to broach the topic of Pfeffer… If Maidana can’t play, why isn’t Pfeffer starting? I know he looked like hell when he got a start under Hackworth, but it’s clear now that Hackworth didn’t tell his players what he expected. Witness Le Toux’s comments regarding how refreshing it is to have Curtain tell him where and how to play…
Loved the irony in Pappas commenting last night after the MTL subs about how great it was to see all the successful homegrown players in MLS. Meanwhile, here in Chester…
Hoppenot was the man of the match at Harrisburg beating Orlando 3-2. He was involved in all three goals.
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I believe that pipo is saying that hopponot should be in the 18 and I would agree. He hasn’t been given anytime to establish himself on this squad and it’s a shame. Being subbed in with ten min to go on occasion won’t allow any player on any team develop and become comfortable. Hopponot definitely has the potential to help this team greatly.
I conceed the point. Don’t know if I agree but respect the position non the less.
I will only mention this in passing, if MacMath’s play this season has been adequate to adequate plus (and he continues to improve), the M’Bohli purchase continues to baffle me. I understand the GenAdidas bit and that we have Blake waiting in the wings, but surely the limited resources of the FO could have been used on an area of greater need. Unless your willing to argue that the FO office are frickin geniuses and the Blake 1st pick and signing of M”Bolhi were always part of great scheme….
*pours shot*
*looks silently out the window*
*drinks straight out of the bottle*
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Couple of things. First, if the union were playing any other team I’m not sure that we would have won. Secondly, the passing was absolutely horrible. Gaddis had at least 4 forced miss passes for example. There was barely any possession which really hurt us. One problem I see with keeping possession was starting Carroll and edu as the d mids. Edu has been poor in midfield all year, hence why he has played defense. Carroll shouldn’t even be in the 18 let alone on the team anymore. I’m sorry but the reality is that there is no need for him on this team. This match showed once again that he cannot perform well playing defense or going forward. He had plenty of miss passes, hospital passes and showed how Frail he can be when defending, winning almost no tackles or disruptions and only progressing in fouls. The line up in the midfield should have been nogueira , okugo and Fred in the midfield with Fred as the attacking mid. Again the union played poor and thank god we played the impact who beat themselves for the most part.
This game was pretty ugly as everyone has mentioned. There were some positives and negatives, but more than anything I think it really clarified some points about this team and how to utilize players.
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BC did a good job at breaking up plays, even in MTL’s half. He also was terrible in distributing and possession. This means he should only be a defensive sub late in games.
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Andrew Wenger had some great runs down the left and he’s shown an ability to defend. He should be starting over Cruz and I think on this team right now he should be our LM.
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I really like Williams but he has struggled this year. I think we need to get Gaddis back at RB and let Williams and Fabinho rotate at LB. That or bring up a HCI fullback.
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Nogs is not a CAM nor a CDM. He’s a CM in a pure box to box sense. He’s not creative and disciplined to play a CAM role effectively, and he’s not big enough to be a CDM and win balls. He just doesn’t fit this team. He’s a great player but didn’t fit Hackworth nor Curtin’s systems.
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Maidana is critical. Finding a replacement/backup for him is really important. Ribeiro looks ready to be that player. Fred has been ok but I think Ribeiro is showing he deserves 1st team minutes.
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Thank God Valdes is back. White-Valdes is it, don’t change it.
Union should go van Gaal Utd:
3 – White Valdes Gaddis
5 – Wenger Okugo Edu Nogeira LeToux
1 – Chaco
2 – Brown Casey
or put Cruz for Wenger and move Wenger up top in rotation with Brown and Casey
Your funny – with an offseason I would argue you are right as this is the direction of futbol now (3-5-2 then 5-3-2) Valdez, Gaddis and maybe shaenon with total defending discipline. Le Toux is capable of being a winger up and back all game long though Wenger im not so sure about.
Ugly, ugly win.
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I hope Carroll’s start was more the result of a packed schedule, rather than coach’s favor. He is a possession killer.
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Noguiera looks off. He seemed to have eyes in the of his head, when he first arrived. Not so much, now. Could be the lack of quality surrounding him.
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Cruz and Wenger need to switch roles. Wenger’s a MUCH better player. As much as I appreciate Cruz’ efforts, he should come off the bench. The more Cruz starts, the more ineffective and sloppy he becomes.
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Casey is going to fall apart, if Curtin continues to run him out for 80’+. Brown should start one of the next two.
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I say we go for the silverware, tomorrow. Pull out all stops. We are nowhere near making a run at the MLS Cup.
Telling you Noguiera misses Chaco and missed Amobi. People thinking the absence of Amobi had minimal impact on game are amiss. Amobi is always in right position to relieve pressure or redirect run if play. I am a broken record.
Completely agree. Amobi is a solid, dependable midfield foundation. His presence gives Noguiera a little more freedom.
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I’m hoping Carroll was in, only because of the packed schedule.
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Amobi’s form dipped a little. Maybe Curtin recognized that and gave him a break.
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Chaco’s return will be interesting. He will force a choice between Edu and Amobi. I go Amobi.
If I have to choose between Edu and Okugo I’m taking Mo Edu.
Only one way to solve this…Dance Off!!!
They need to build this team around nogueira. This talk of nog. Not fitting in is complete nonsense haha. Every player should have been looking for nog. Every chance they got last game. We desperately need him on this team. The FO better be doing everything in their power to keep him here.